Spider-man mugen pre-final (preview) version

i know that doc and scorp have those long range op moves, but more important part for me was always how the animations look tbh, and messing with them (significantly slowing timing, etc) would make animations look worse. so when it comes to choosing between balance and visuals, i will always choose visuals, since balance is really never a strong side of custom mugen games anyway. there is possibility of adding "charge up" frames to slow down these moves, without breaking the visuals, but honestly, just for myself, i dont really have much desire to do this work

i mean AI currently can beat anyone with anyone. and to note i also always felt that doc and scorp should be more challenging compared to rest of the roster (aside from green goblin, symbiotes). so, it honestly works for me. i kept thinking about removing juggle from the special you mentioned too, but just from the look of the move, it feels like it should be otg, so removing this property felt like a downgrade to a character for me. but maybe juggle should be reduced to 2 instead of 3 and has reduced damage on 2nd hit, since doc also has only 2 hit spam on his long range special, that is a good point to think about, thanks

about morbius it is a good point too, as well as actually mysterio stun move spam too has this problem. i will add a trigger that would prevent ai to spam it one after another, it gets pretty annoying, i agree

i wouldn't agree on spidey though, he has alot of really good moves, like his counter shield, slide kick, web kick, web swing, dodge. i honestly have one of the easiest times beating the game as spidey. he also has an advantage of very low stance and low get hits, so he is one of the best chars honestly imo, many moves just keep missing on him. also Zvitor pretty much made an iconic version of Spidey, i would not want to change much about him tbh. Symbiote spidey on the other hand is being worked on by Empawk currently, he does all kind of cool new moves and animations, i just included intros and new walk in my version, but you guys will see a really cool unique symbiote spidey someday in the future, im sure)))

and yeah, screenpack is already at its limit. there is still a hydroman, possible smythe and full lizard on the way. moving hobgoblin offscreen under greengoblin was also my idea to include hydroman initially. but the problem there is, portraits actually make a nice arrangement right now, and putting hydroman port instead of hob actually breaks it. and aside from hydroman there is really no other character ready i feel should be included. so hydroman can be put under sandman for now, but that issue would have to be resolved as new chars like full lizard and smythe will come along, but i guess not by me, since i have no idea how to do it without completely changing select screen. so i will just have to leave it as is, and hope Jspiderman or other people who will continue this project will figure out a work around it, sorry guys

hud indication of power levels, is also very good idea
and taunt actually still works, by pressing D,DF,F+start, but there also will be an optional folder included in final release with custom files to restore classic taunt and remove movelist, for those, who dont need it. palettes will also be added in final release

as for mysterio being invisible, move is actually suppose to confuse you, im pretty sure original authors intended it this way. he creates standing dummy illusion and disappears himself, i personally dont think anything needs to be changed there. it is pretty good recreation of his powers imo

but in any case, i will mark the points you brought up in my list man, thank you for detailed feedback

i know that doc and scorp have those long range op moves, but more important part for me was always how the animations look tbh, and messing with them (significantly slowing timing, etc) would make animations look worse. so when it comes to choosing between balance and visuals, i will always choose visuals, since balance is really never a strong side of custom mugen games anyway. there is possibility of adding "charge up" frames to slow down these moves, without breaking the visuals, but honestly, just for myself, i dont really have much desire to do this work

i mean AI currently can beat anyone with anyone. and to note i also always felt that doc and scorp should be more challenging compared to rest of the roster (aside from green goblin, symbiotes). so, it honestly works for me. i kept thinking about removing juggle from the special you mentioned too, but just from the look of the move, it feels like it should be otg, so removing this property felt like a downgrade to a character for me. but maybe juggle should be reduced to 2 instead of 3 and has reduced damage on 2nd hit, since doc also has only 2 hit spam on his long range special, that is a good point to think about, thanks

about morbius it is a good point too, as well as actually mysterio stun move spam too has this problem. i will add a trigger that would prevent ai to spam it one after another, it gets pretty annoying, i agree

i wouldn't agree on spidey though, he has alot of really good moves, like his counter shield, slide kick, web kick, web swing, dodge. i honestly have one of the easiest times beating the game as spidey. he also has an advantage of very low stance and low get hits, so he is one of the best chars honestly imo, many moves just keep missing on him. also Zvitor pretty much made an iconic version of Spidey, i would not want to change much about him tbh. Symbiote spidey on the other hand is being worked on by Empawk currently, he does all kind of cool new moves and animations, i just included intros and new walk in my version, but you guys will see a really cool unique symbiote spidey someday in the future, im sure)))

and yeah, screenpack is already at its limit. there is still a hydroman, possible smythe and full lizard on the way. moving hobgoblin offscreen under greengoblin was also my idea to include hydroman initially. but the problem there is, portraits actually make a nice arrangement right now, and putting hydroman port instead of hob actually breaks it. and aside from hydroman there is really no other character ready i feel should be included. so hydroman can be put under sandman for now, but that issue would have to be resolved as new chars like full lizard and smythe will come along, but i guess not by me, since i have no idea how to do it without completely changing select screen. so i will just have to leave it as is, and hope Jspiderman or other people who will continue this project will figure out a work around it, sorry guys

hud indication of power levels, is also very good idea
and taunt actually still works, by pressing D,DF,F+start, but there also will be an optional folder included in final release with custom files to restore classic taunt and remove movelist, for those, who dont need it. palettes will also be added in final release

as for mysterio being invisible, move is actually suppose to confuse you, im pretty sure original authors intended it this way. he creates standing dummy illusion and disappears himself, i personally dont think anything needs to be changed there. it is pretty good recreation of his powers imo

but in any case, i will mark the points you brought up in my list man, thank you for detailed feedback