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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 1:20 am

WOAW QUE PADRE CHAR MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!!! cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers objection

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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 12:24 pm

karim wrote:
im nobody but i think Skillfrank needs respect and encouragement here..i speaking as a Mugen fan here, this guy is a artist, theres no other name for what he does...and Mugen community needs people like him, i mean he is a important piece for the survivality of Mugen, as all the other sprite artists, the guys have a disagreement in the development for what i read in the thread..but this dont make he less important, i want to see more of your work bro..just find another coder and keep the great job
i like your job too candido, so much.
sorry my english bros

from brazil

marvel/dc/mugen fan
SKILLFRANK IS A FRAUD.

I'm really sorry for not telling everyone this. This one is on me. I wanted to give the guy chance so I never mentioned this ever. But as per his latest comment, he is still so immature and keep telling lies that he made the sprites for years.
I will back my words per Volzilla's pm towards me.

volzzilla wrote:
frank literally just admitted to me he paid for a commission for the sprites to be made and he made nothing. he thinks that because he paid a commission he becomes the artist.

he is mistaken.

skillfrank wrote:

It's a hand drawn work
Of Art man ..enjoy

For free.....you want to pay
Me for that ...all that work

My 🤕 eyes hurt

I need new glasses ....

I'm going blind ..cause I did work
On that ......
That's why some of my other
Works will feel the blindness
That I'm enduring

Is taking advantage of a blind
Person ever a good thing....??

Has nothing to do with skills

Not everyone can draw
Magus would have privatized this....

Like he said all the basics
Are new ...never seen before on a character


If there are 500
Of 1 same move

Means more options for you

If you had 500 women to chose
You would take about 459

Like say the walk.
There were 5 of them to chose from

If you wanted he could have floated

Or even meditated for a stance

It wasn't in there to bash ...the creator
But to give options

But to give ideas ......
Cause some moves won't make sense
If only the coder can do it

And some fx cannot be converted by me
Cause I don't have his fighter factory
and I don't know his palette separation
"Just because...I don't want to do that
So I resist ...by Palette separate"
Then bash when asked why not put
This move..... lol!

Kilowog Release - Page 4 Screenshot-20210809-022855

But then converts a dragon
That came from the Same
Source material
I'm like huh....
geek  scratch
Rolling Eyes

Kilowog Release - Page 4 2399657483
While I may say yeah..I would like this

Coder can say no cause
Of color separate ..and how he wants
To put it in
Converstion ....plus depends
On the fx that's around the whole gif

Cause of only the person that codes
Can put it together ....

But all the moves are in there regardless
Of 25 of the same moves in different variations

Cause you can clearly see drawn moves

Hi res moves ... Idea moves

Convertion of the sprites are necessary regardless

Of if I didn't convert or not

Cause that's a step ..he takes


Cause it's a part of making the sprite enter the factory

If fighter factory had its own convertion
Process of gifs where all gifs

Work ..we would  not be having this argument

Since it's my character that I created
I know the ins and outs


I created him....drew him on paper
As a sketch ....

How he should punch
Kick..walk

Jump
Crouch

There are even
Get hits that have not
Been implemented

Cause they said every
Character would have to get that then

Which I didn't understand
So I said put it there
With the character used or not

The character is really a huge template
To learn from ...

When the factory catches up to
The future imo...not getting hit on a crouch ... scratch

I think technology is very slow
If the factory can't even convert and place a gif
And generate a code for a type up

Move of what you would like
So I got to deal with ..oh
I'm putting this for you ..I don't care
What you say...cause you don't play this

They keep improving the same things over
And over again ..and not really
Adding a smart code it yourself system

And image converter for gifs and images
We 22 years ..in common man... Kilowog Release - Page 4 1340147569

I never understood why someone never
Created oh I speak ..to this machine
And it hand draws for me...

But they can teach machines to fight wars
And humans
I'll quote this to show this 8th edit of childish sentences because he might edit it for 9th or 10th time.

You guys are wondering what his projects are right?
Well he'll tell you that he has heavy sprited Manbat and Stephen wolf, but our fellow member @spiderguko has confirmed it on discord that these are DOF sprites and non of his. I do believe he does handraws, and you can see the unused sprites in first post, that's his sprite skills.

As per Allan scott, he doesn't have the sprites anymore, he said magus had them and as per magus said, he believes it's also a commissioned sprites.
Now I don't have any problem of him commissioning, I'm actually greatful for he gave the commissioned sprites to me to code, but the way he boast himself of being talented sickens me.


I see no reason for this guy to exist in mugen anymore. I would personally request for him to be banned. He was warned but as you can all see he is still not giving constructive criticism but instead keeps complaining what I did not add.

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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 12:42 pm

skillfrank wrote:
candido159 wrote:
karim wrote:
im nobody but i think Skillfrank needs respect and encouragement here..i speaking as a Mugen fan here, this guy is a artist, theres no other name for what he does...and Mugen community needs people like him, i mean he is a important piece for the survivality of Mugen, as all the other sprite artists, the guys have a disagreement in the development for what i read in the thread..but this dont make he less important, i want to see more of your work bro..just find another coder and keep the great job
i like your job too candido, so much.
sorry my english bros

from brazil

marvel/dc/mugen fan
SKILLFRANK IS A FRAUD.

I'm really sorry for not telling everyone this. This one is on me. I wanted to give the guy chance so I never mentioned this ever. But as per his latest comment, he is still so immature and keep telling lies that he made the sprites for years.
I will back my words per Volzilla's pm towards me.

volzzilla wrote:
frank literally just admitted to me he paid for a commission for the sprites to be made and he made nothing. he thinks that because he paid a commission he becomes the artist.

he is mistaken.

skillfrank wrote:

It's a hand drawn work
Of Art man ..enjoy

For free.....you want to pay
Me for that ...all that work

My 🤕 eyes hurt

I need new glasses ....

I'm going blind ..cause I did work
On that ......
That's why some of my other
Works will feel the blindness
That I'm enduring

Is taking advantage of a blind
Person ever a good thing....??

Has nothing to do with skills

Not everyone can draw
Magus would have privatized this....

Like he said all the basics
Are new ...never seen before on a character


If there are 500
Of 1 same move

Means more options for you

If you had 500 women to chose
You would take about 459

Like say the walk.
There were 5 of them to chose from

If you wanted he could have floated

Or even meditated for a stance

It wasn't in there to bash ...the creator
But to give options

But to give ideas ......
Cause some moves won't make sense
If only the coder can do it

And some fx cannot be converted by me
Cause I don't have his fighter factory
and I don't know his palette separation
"Just because...I don't want to do that
So I resist ...by Palette separate"
Then bash when asked why not put
This move..... lol!

Kilowog Release - Page 4 Screenshot-20210809-022855

But then converts a dragon
That came from the Same
Source material
I'm like huh....
geek  scratch
Rolling Eyes

Kilowog Release - Page 4 2399657483
While I may say yeah..I would like this

Coder can say no cause
Of color separate ..and how he wants
To put it in
Converstion ....plus depends
On the fx that's around the whole gif

Cause of only the person that codes
Can put it together ....

But all the moves are in there regardless
Of 25 of the same moves in different variations

Cause you can clearly see drawn moves

Hi res moves ... Idea moves

Convertion of the sprites are necessary regardless

Of if I didn't convert or not

Cause that's a step ..he takes


Cause it's a part of making the sprite enter the factory

If fighter factory had its own convertion
Process of gifs where all gifs

Work ..we would  not be having this argument

Since it's my character that I created
I know the ins and outs


I created him....drew him on paper
As a sketch ....

How he should punch
Kick..walk

Jump
Crouch

There are even
Get hits that have not
Been implemented

Cause they said every
Character would have to get that then

Which I didn't understand
So I said put it there
With the character used or not

The character is really a huge template
To learn from ...

When the factory catches up to
The future imo...not getting hit on a crouch ... scratch

I think technology is very slow
If the factory can't even convert and place a gif
And generate a code for a type up

Move of what you would like
So I got to deal with ..oh
I'm putting this for you ..I don't care
What you say...cause you don't play this

They keep improving the same things over
And over again ..and not really
Adding a smart code it yourself system

And image converter for gifs and images
We 22 years ..in common man... Kilowog Release - Page 4 1340147569

I never understood why someone never
Created oh I speak ..to this machine
And it hand draws for me...

But they can teach machines to fight wars
And humans
I'll quote this to show this 8th edit of childish sentences because he might edit it for 9th or 10th time.

You guys are wondering what his projects are right?
Well he'll tell you that he has heavy sprited Manbat and Stephen wolf, but our fellow member @spiderguko has confirmed it on discord that these are  DOF sprites and non of his. I do believe he does handraws, and you can see the unused sprites in first post, that's his sprite skills.

As per Allan scott, he doesn't have the sprites anymore, he said magus had them and as per magus said, he believes it's also a commissioned sprites.
Now I don't have any problem of him commissioning, I'm actually greatful for he gave the commissioned sprites to me to code, but the way he boast himself of being talented sickens me.


I see no reason for this guy to exist in mugen anymore. I would personally request for him to be banned. He was warned but as you can all see he is still not giving constructive criticism but instead keeps complaining what I did not add.


Stop instigating trouble
You coded thats it

I am the owner and author
Only me
I did stop, but you didn't so I must do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 12:54 pm

candido159 wrote:
karim wrote:
im nobody but i think Skillfrank needs respect and encouragement here..i speaking as a Mugen fan here, this guy is a artist, theres no other name for what he does...and Mugen community needs people like him, i mean he is a important piece for the survivality of Mugen, as all the other sprite artists, the guys have a disagreement in the development for what i read in the thread..but this dont make he less important, i want to see more of your work bro..just find another coder and keep the great job
i like your job too candido, so much.
sorry my english bros

from brazil

marvel/dc/mugen fan
SKILLFRANK IS A FRAUD.

I'm really sorry for not telling everyone this. This one is on me. I wanted to give the guy chance so I never mentioned this ever. But as per his latest comment, he is still so immature and keep telling lies that he made the sprites for years.
I will back my words per Volzilla's pm towards me.

volzzilla wrote:
frank literally just admitted to me he paid for a commission for the sprites to be made and he made nothing. he thinks that because he paid a commission he becomes the artist.

he is mistaken.

skillfrank wrote:

It's a hand drawn work
Of Art man ..enjoy

For free.....you want to pay
Me for that ...all that work

My 🤕 eyes hurt

I need new glasses ....

I'm going blind ..cause I did work
On that ......
That's why some of my other
Works will feel the blindness
That I'm enduring

Is taking advantage of a blind
Person ever a good thing....??

Has nothing to do with skills

Not everyone can draw
Magus would have privatized this....

Like he said all the basics
Are new ...never seen before on a character


If there are 500
Of 1 same move

Means more options for you

If you had 500 women to chose
You would take about 459

Like say the walk.
There were 5 of them to chose from

If you wanted he could have floated

Or even meditated for a stance

It wasn't in there to bash ...the creator
But to give options

But to give ideas ......
Cause some moves won't make sense
If only the coder can do it

And some fx cannot be converted by me
Cause I don't have his fighter factory
and I don't know his palette separation
"Just because...I don't want to do that
So I resist ...by Palette separate"
Then bash when asked why not put
This move..... lol!

Kilowog Release - Page 4 Screenshot-20210809-022855

But then converts a dragon
That came from the Same
Source material
I'm like huh....
geek  scratch
Rolling Eyes

Kilowog Release - Page 4 2399657483
While I may say yeah..I would like this

Coder can say no cause
Of color separate ..and how he wants
To put it in
Converstion ....plus depends
On the fx that's around the whole gif

Cause of only the person that codes
Can put it together ....

But all the moves are in there regardless
Of 25 of the same moves in different variations

Cause you can clearly see drawn moves

Hi res moves ... Idea moves

Convertion of the sprites are necessary regardless

Of if I didn't convert or not

Cause that's a step ..he takes


Cause it's a part of making the sprite enter the factory

If fighter factory had its own convertion
Process of gifs where all gifs

Work ..we would  not be having this argument

Since it's my character that I created
I know the ins and outs


I created him....drew him on paper
As a sketch ....

How he should punch
Kick..walk

Jump
Crouch

There are even
Get hits that have not
Been implemented

Cause they said every
Character would have to get that then

Which I didn't understand
So I said put it there
With the character used or not

The character is really a huge template
To learn from ...

When the factory catches up to
The future imo...not getting hit on a crouch ... scratch

I think technology is very slow
If the factory can't even convert and place a gif
And generate a code for a type up

Move of what you would like
So I got to deal with ..oh
I'm putting this for you ..I don't care
What you say...cause you don't play this

They keep improving the same things over
And over again ..and not really
Adding a smart code it yourself system

And image converter for gifs and images
We 22 years ..in common man... Kilowog Release - Page 4 1340147569

I never understood why someone never
Created oh I speak ..to this machine
And it hand draws for me...

But they can teach machines to fight wars
And humans
I'll quote this to show this 8th edit of childish sentences because he might edit it for 9th or 10th time.

You guys are wondering what his projects are right?
Well he'll tell you that he has heavy sprited Manbat and Stephen wolf, but our fellow member @spiderguko has confirmed it on discord that these are  DOF sprites and non of his. I do believe he does handraws, and you can see the unused sprites in first post, that's his sprite skills.

As per Allan scott, he doesn't have the sprites anymore, he said magus had them and as per magus said, he believes it's also a commissioned sprites.
Now I don't have any problem of him commissioning, I'm actually greatful for he gave the commissioned sprites to me to code, but the way he boast himself of being talented sickens me.


I see no reason for this guy to exist in mugen anymore. I would personally request for him to be banned. He was warned but as you can all see he is still not giving constructive criticism but instead keeps complaining what I did not add.

Sincerely, it came to me when I saw the badly drawn sprites, maybe I try to draw them, I don't know.
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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 1:00 pm

skillfrank wrote:
There is nothing more there for you


The character will be updated by be
As promised

As we agreed ...learn to keep your word
I don't care about Kilowog anymore, it's done. What my problem is that you keep commenting immature stuff and keeps lying about you having a great talent.
You deserve to be praise as commissioning the sprites, but you do not deserve to be praise as an artist for Kilowog.
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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 1:03 pm

And learn to understand this:

Shining wrote:
stop to add not intelligent and not mature comments or I will ban you
The time you lost to criticism on it you might get to learn to code characters

stop senseless hysterical scenes, you are satisfied and you will have other chances to live in this community
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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 2:14 pm

skillfrank wrote:
Skillfrank is kilowog author

And designer
[/quote]
No, you isnt.

;----
candido159 wrote:
I see no reason for this guy to exist in mugen anymore. I would personally request for him to be banned. He was warned but as you can all see he is still not giving constructive criticism but instead keeps complaining what I did not add.

I agree and support your request. In fact, I guess he should've be banned like 1 month ago when he said he eat someone else mother, every message he sends after that makes me think this guy just have sort of mental/emotional issues and is not healthy for him AND for the community have someone so distopic like that. I dont know why he is still here and I ve been trying to understand why  @Shining is still giving him a chance when its already proved he doesnt deseve, and its driving me real mad with that situation. This guy is very contradictory and honestly? He doesnt give a damn about mugen, he only wants his "name" spread all over for some kind of egocentrism/narcissism or whatever.

All that problem should be ended weeks ago but we still here.

I mean, thanks for the contribution with Kilowog and, because we are a civilized group and Candido is a honorable author with a admirable behavior facing that situation, his name(skillfrank) will always be there on the Kilowog. (Even if no one knows exactly wtf he did... he never says openly he paid for someone make those sprites, and I m really curious to know who really did)

(We know, there are a lot of good creators who would have dropped the project, trash talked against skillfrank, quit for the comunity. I really surprised that Candido just finished the job and still having the patience to arguing public (What he says in private for skillfrank was in private, as it should be)



Anyway, all my support on Candido request. From what I saw on this forum with that Kilowog, its more than fair.
And this is my vision of the whole situation I dont care if I might be wrong on something, I intend not talk anything more about Skillfrank for the rest of my life. Its a shame Kilowog release is marked by all that.

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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 2:27 pm

@Shining you are administrator please delated this guy 5 years old @skillfrank , ok he is a "creator" but I dont see constructive criticism! this a poor boy...I support you @candido159 !

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PostSubject: Re: Kilowog Release   Kilowog Release - Page 4 EmptyAugust 9th 2021, 2:44 pm

I am neutral in this discussion, I just want to talk about the character. I have no idea who made them, but the work on the sprites is really good. My honest criticism of my vision. I think he needs more creative constructs. Bearing in mind that the possibilities of whoever wears the ring are limitless.

Another thing, are new sprites. They don't look like the originals and they also look bigger.
My tip is: count the pixels. I've done some sprites for Loganir Wonder Woman and they were convincing using this method.

It's just friendly feedback. I liked the char and am using it on my list.

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