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MakeMineMarvel
Posts : 302
Join date : 2014-01-31
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 15th 2017, 6:06 pm | |
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| | | | skhsato123
Posts : 2963
Join date : 2013-04-04
Age : 39
Location : Egypt
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 20th 2017, 12:24 am | |
| Thanks , it is a promising way to create Falcon as much as i can , hopefully as much as he is needed | |
| | | | Navana
Posts : 2019
Join date : 2014-06-17
Age : 30
Location : Ohio
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 20th 2017, 11:46 am | |
| Do you have a recent update on him? | |
| | | | Werewood
Posts : 5691
Join date : 2014-08-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 7:13 am | |
| - skhsato123 wrote:
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I do not know why this person disourage me in every WIP  he is a great creator if he will create a char will be far better than mine , but i did not even ask anyone or enforce anyone to admire my hobby , i do what i love even if it is bad i just like it and do not compare myself to great creators , i just love what i make , i love evry people advice and respectful opinions that improve me and aatifay good friends in MMV , actually outside here it is an upset hell Is that your own YouTube channel?  If you don't like some certain YouTube comments then you may just remove those (or even disable public comments at all). Well in my opinion YouTube comments are not that useful when it comes to e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying because every YouTube channel owner is his/her/its comments manager/administrator/moderator.........  Hey I have been getting a ton way more negative/discouraging YouTube comments from all around the world than you do, yet I concern MMV posts more (and I think my old/new MUGEN haters seldom/rarely come to MMV to continue their e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying on me because they are all MUGEN cowards  ).  Oh by the way if some YouTube comments are real MUGEN feedbacks (not just piss-you-off-on-purpose insults) then you/I/he/she/it can take them like a normal human being....  | |
| | | | skhsato123
Posts : 2963
Join date : 2013-04-04
Age : 39
Location : Egypt
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 7:44 am | |
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Posts : 270
Join date : 2015-06-20
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 10:32 am | |
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| | | | shags2dope
Posts : 449
Join date : 2013-07-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 10:43 am | |
| Gentlemen i thinl we need to clarify the difference between trolling/hating and genuine criticism. Some ppl are rude with how they say it. But if something needs work its best to hear them out. You cant surround yourself witj yes men. Criticism is healthy | |
| | | | asterione
Posts : 63
Join date : 2012-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 2:23 pm | |
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To clarify,
examples of genuine criticism: "the feet your the sprites are misaligned", "the perspective of this pose is wrong", "there is a bug in the coding", "you should change this to get a better effect"
examples of trolling: "your work is shit", "you should stop doing mugen chars", "you have no skills", "throw your character in the trash"
it is that simple
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| | | | shags2dope
Posts : 449
Join date : 2013-07-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 2:33 pm | |
| Well only 2 of those are actual trolling....throw your characters in the trash and stop doing chars. The other two can be factual statements. (Not saying that applies here). BD is a creator he has no reason to say its bad if its not......mind you he could say it in much nicer ways Is the point i am getting at. So Yeah clearly its a smidge more complicated  And unfortunately in this hobby even your examples of criticism get washed away under the sea of "Nice work" Luv it" .....cant wait for (Insert character here) and Want him for my roster, the before mentioned "Yes men" | |
| | | | Werewood
Posts : 5691
Join date : 2014-08-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 3:35 pm | |
| - asterione wrote:
To clarify,
examples of genuine criticism: "the feet your the sprites are misaligned", "the perspective of this pose is wrong", "there is a bug in the coding", "you should change this to get a better effect"
examples of trolling: "your work is shit", "you should stop doing mugen chars", "you have no skills", "throw your character in the trash"
it is that simple Wholly Molly finally saw someone who has some fair MUGEN feedback reasoning here!  If every MUGEN Feedback Giver has this similar reasoning and tries to give ONLY the valid "genuine criticism" (i.e. the very awesome Staubhold pal in MMV and other MUGEN online places), then MUGEN World Peace has gotten a chance to be maintained! Just look at me as a MUGEN example, many MUGEN people accuse me of being some crazy MUGEN dude who is overly sensitive about all MUGEN criticism and MUGEN feedback, yet, try to look at my MUGEN release reply posts, every time some good MUGEN Feedback Givers like the very awesome Staubhold pal gives me some valid "genuine criticism", I response with positive MUGEN language and MUGEN attitude and try to fix stuff if it is reasonable to me. Of course I can go really mad and do crazy reactions when someone gives me only the pure e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying, or a mix of "piss-you-off-on-purpose insults bundled inside valid criticism"....  Time to review my " What makes a good M.U.G.E.N feedback giver?" here  : http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t4834-what-makes-a-good-m-u-g-e-n-feedback-giver - shags2dope wrote:
- Well only 2 of those are actual trolling....throw your characters in the trash and stop doing chars. The other two can be factual statements.
Sorry but in my MUGEN eyes all 4 of those are acts of pure e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying.  The bad MUGEN language and MUGEN attitude make those so. Well, I can easily list 100+ more similar real ones I have been getting from 2010-2017 if you want....  A very important point is missing a concerned talk up there, which is "MUGEN bias" by those reckless & heartless MUGEN e-trollers  : skhsato123 mentioned: " I do not know why this person discourage me in every WIP..." Do you see this -- every time you/I/he/she/it post(s) something (doesn't matter it is good or not-so-good), those reckless & heartless MUGEN e-trollers can just keep saying bad things about you and your posted stuff, like no tomorrow, like they are watching you 24/7 for getting the chance to tell the world to try to prove something -- ? Such "MUGEN bias" is greatly due the the "haters gonna hate" e-social fact, which is one (1) of the biggest causes of all e-conflicts.  Therefore, skhsato123 I fully understand how you feel about that " being e-haunted every time I post something" simply because e-ghosts love e-haunting everywhere.  Even after you have already left that e-hell the e-ghosts can still keep track of you and keep doing their bad e-deeds!  Don't worry skhsato123 my man if that YouTube MUGEN e-ghost tries to come to MMV here to e-haunt you then I will certainly try to e-exorcise it  for you.  >> " you should stop doing mugen chars" Oh man I remember how this stop word once drove me to utterly MUGEN craziness back in the MUGEN year of 2011!  Who are they that can tell someone to stop even they can do 500% better MUGEN job than their target does? Especially when MUGEN is a freaking free e-hobby!  I guess this stop word is one (1) of the biggest insultant words for all hobbists like MUGEN'ers....  OK now please talk about skhsato123's MUGEN WIP ONLY after this of my replies. If you feel like more talking about "MUGEN feedback"/"MUGEN e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying" then please continue on in my " What makes a good M.U.G.E.N feedback giver?" here : http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t4834-what-makes-a-good-m-u-g-e-n-feedback-giver
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| | | | shags2dope
Posts : 449
Join date : 2013-07-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 3:53 pm | |
| lol That was a very dramatic speech, but i will keep my response to all of it brief. You are correct it is his HOBBY and he can do WHATEVER HE WANTS. A great analogy is singing you can sing in the shower, on the train wherever and since you arent getting paid its your right and your business how well you do it. Your friends and family are gonna support it no matter WHAT!!! But once you put yourself out there to the world it is open to criticism so if you dont sing well and someone is rude and says STOP. That is not.....hating nor is it bullying.
But as far as the falcon himself, i would suggest maybe a different stance so he doesnt come off like cyclops, at the moment he looks like a pallete swap of cyclops (A very good one i might add) but a swap none the less. Maybe something different to separate the two. Skhsato you are cleary passionate about what you do, but i do believe you would benefit from pushing harder. Start creating things from scratch or doing a bit more frankenspriting mixing bases. You have a very helpful team behind you and the great thing about that support system is that if you try something new and fail. They will be there to help you so you can only get better
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| | | | Werewood
Posts : 5691
Join date : 2014-08-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 3:58 pm | |
| - shags2dope wrote:
- lol That was a very dramatic speech, but i will keep my response to all of it brief. You are correct it is his HOBBY and he can do WHATEVER HE WANTS. A great analogy is singing you can sing in the shower, on the train wherever and since you arent getting paid its your right and your business how well you do it. Your friends and family are gonna support it no matter WHAT!!! But once you put yourself out there to the world it is open to criticism so if you dont sing well and someone is rude and says STOP. That is not.....hating nor is it bullying.
- borewood2013 wrote:
- If you feel like more talking about "MUGEN feedback"/"MUGEN e-bashing/e-haunting/e-trolling/e-bullying" then please continue on in my "What makes a good M.U.G.E.N feedback giver?" here [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] :
http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t4834-what-makes-a-good-m-u-g-e-n-feedback-giver Thank you for your MUGEN co-operation in advance.  | |
| | | | shags2dope
Posts : 449
Join date : 2013-07-11
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 4:03 pm | |
| lmao .....anyway like i said Shskato see my above post and keep passions high for your craft | |
| | | | skhsato123
Posts : 2963
Join date : 2013-04-04
Age : 39
Location : Egypt
| | Subject: Re: Falcon project April 21st 2017, 4:20 pm | |
| I was in a long operation , could not catch this hot çonversation from beginning , anyways thanks everyone for support not troll
Thanks Borewood for your limitless support and understanding | |
| | | | Doom
Posts : 10512
Join date : 2014-08-22
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