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He is mad because people gave him feedback. He wants to leave the SC project because people gave him feedback on it.
Both sides are wrong. Both CVS and the people that gave feedback on the guild when he told em not to. But i think CVS really freakin effed up for dumpin a project because people told him he should finish his stuff,what the hell dude?
what kind of feedback are we talking here? Because it's not just bug reports to help a creator improve that cvs artist received, he has also gotten harassment feedback, because he doesn't do it their way, despite the fact that cvs artist updates and is working to finish his work constantly to, he still gets bullied. Not once either, but in nearly every thread he's ever made. Repeatedly.
They do it so much you'd think cvs artist has amnesia, that's how often they bully him with that.
jmorphman, an advocate for mugen communities and a MFG network member, sees the damage these guys are doing to mugen communities and mfg's name
Quite frankly I don't blame mfg anymore, especially now since one of them finally spoke up against the others, I realize it's just been the sames guys over and over, bullying others who try and create stuff. These creators and critics hate it when they aren't in the spotlight so they tear others down to make themselves feel better, probably, whatever,
It's a real shame that such a great forum like mfg has a few bad apples in the bunch that generate such disdain for many of their forum's members towards mfg forum. Even more disgusting is that some of these guys are network members, probably why nobody, except jmorphman, has said anything or called them out on it.
in case anyone thinks I'm making this up, here's a few who've spoken out about these mean spirited attacks.
Gritsmaster wrote:
Markpachi said, 4 weeks ago wrote:
He's pals with Chuchoryu, and also believes that the guy's method on releasing characters is alright. That's why.
Hey, that's a bit rude. Their methods may not produce the absolute finest characters immediately, but both have been working very hard and produce decent material. They're not being paid, so if they wanna release stuff early that's their prerogative. People've been complaining about this for the LONGEST, there's no need to be snarky about it..
On-topic: Good release cvs! Can't wait for the update, great stuff
Zingo wrote:
I agree with Grits, this is his style and he has been doing it for quite a bit, with many telling him not to rush releases, but guess what...he continues to work on them and improves them relatively fast. And anybody who has been here for a bit should know this, he hasn't changed his style, so if you don't like his methods don't download the initial release (Hell, video game companies etc..are doing this sort of thing with their products, releasing them not being fully complete) and updating them with fixes...and yet people rush out to pay for stuff that isn't complete.
All I'm saying is give the guy a break already with the advice on him to just work on one character, like you want/wish and let him do what he wants.
I look forward to updates, as I have yet to even download this Cervantes until he is more complete.
Umezono wrote:
Pusha 2 said, 4 weeks ago wrote:
Sounds like you're just being an apologist for poor work ethic.
I think I speak for most people when I say that one, single piece of work in which the artist put his everything into has infinitely more value than a million individual pieces that are only there to fulfill a quota. Think of your favorite musical album. The song that the artist put his soul and heart into writing and performing is obviously going to be a million times better than the singles his label made him make or the songs that are only there to fill album space.
Uhhhhh that was beautiful and eloquent and everything but I don't think it proves he isn't putting his heart into working on it. He's just releasing it as he updates. In fact what you are saying does not apply to his work ethic at all the problem here is his release schedule. He's still working on the character and putting in time and effort. If he releases the final product the only thing you lose out in the end is the element of surprise and hype. It's still a finished project.
That being said, if he just drops the work completely, of course the criticism is valid. Doesn't look like he is though.
however, cvs artist is able to do the work and has been doing it. I don't believe he quit because the work was hard, I know he quit because of these guys.
I don't even know those other posters and even they are calling it out.
And still,
the mean spirited bullies do it again in the next thread, and the next, and the next, and so on. It's painfully clear that they are just attacking now, what they do has nothing to do with feedback anymore.
lets plz not turn this forum topic into a, "what the guild said" thing. that will not have a happy ending nor will it help any case to try and change cvs artist mind.
though i put my thoughts on the matter in JED's topic. i'd rather him take more into account the support he did get, and think of his own enjoyment in his own work above any negative thoughts in general he might get from other people.
lets plz not turn this forum topic into a, "what the guild said" thing. that will not have a happy ending nor will it help any case to try and change cvs artist mind.
though i put my thoughts on the matter in JED's topic. i'd rather him take more into account the support he did, and think of his own enjoyment in his work above any negative thoughts in general he might get from other people.
I'm not trying to bash the guild, I'm just letting everyone, everybody, know what the real deal is with cvs artist quitting here. He can do the work and it makes him happy. The only factor making him quit is a few bad eggs, regardless if it's guild members, this is about that, not the guild forum.
JEDDragon
Posts : 735 Join date : 2013-04-15 Location : Somewhere in California.
oh well dude if your out there listen to this song I know how ya feel I've punked by those guys before even my avatar says beast I my have hidden my face form the world but I'm back for more
but if need a real booster here MJ songs
oh well good luck to you if regardless of what you choose
animaraz
Posts : 1805 Join date : 2012-05-20 Age : 48 Location : León, Gto.
well for one thing it is not the feedback because I use the feedback I keep telling people that only on mugen guild but people still keep saying that so stop lying Erroratu (mugen guild person) I said they could give me feedback with personal messages not in the trend then I changed my mind no one reads anything on that site only like 3 or 4 people no one listens there only when they want to instead of understanding
as for guild if im going to post something there im just going to ignore all of the bad and ignorant people there (not the good people there who cares and understands)
if you guys would help out a lot to make this game the best it can be for the fans then I can keep this up here
after hearing that you guys said I really don't want to disappoint fans who are waiting for characters (rock, kilik, maxi, and others) thank you guys
I love you MUGEN MULTIVERSE!!!
Mistah Jorge
Posts : 2356 Join date : 2013-07-04 Age : 26 Location : Portugal
well for one thing it is not the feedback because I use the feedback I keep telling people that only on mugen guild but people still keep saying that so stop lying Erroratu (mugen guild person) I said they could give me feedback with personal messages not in the trend then I changed my mind no one reads anything on that site only like 3 or 4 people no one listens there only when they want to instead of understanding
as for guild if im going to post something there im just going to ignore all of the bad and ignorant people there (not the good people there who cares and understands)
if you guys would help out a lot to make this game the best it can be for the fans then I can keep this up here
after hearing that you guys said I really don't want to disappoint fans who are waiting for characters (rock, kilik, maxi, and others) thank you guys
I love you MUGEN MULTIVERSE!!!
So you are not quiting anymore?
JEDDragon
Posts : 735 Join date : 2013-04-15 Location : Somewhere in California.