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Werewood

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I looked at Starfire's "Starbolt StormX" hyper beam MUGEN code and found that its Helper "StormX" hyper beam has two HitDef's like these:


Code:
type = HitDef
trigger1 = time = 0 || time = 2  || time = 5 || time = 8 || time = 11
trigger2 = time = 14 || time = 17  || time = 20 || time = 23 || time = 26
attr = S, HP            ;Attribute: Standing, Normal Attack
damage = 28, 1

type = HitDef
trigger1 = time = 29
attr = S, HP            ;Attribute: Standing, Normal Attack
damage = 28, 1   

HyperCombinationFinish, the MUGEN author of Starfire, was so generous to make the guard damage of Starfire's "Starbolt StormX" hyper beam so low (with the value of 1) and even put guard.dist = 320 there to let P2 detect almost a full-screen (assume your MUGEN is within 320x240) guard distance to have a super easy guard-able.  Surprised

So, the normal damage output shall be 11*28=308 maximum.  With a "P.o.t.S Damage Dampener, MvC Style" damage dampener on the AttackMulSet, its damage has been scaled down for bit combo hit count as expected (i.e. a 3-hit combo linked to hyper beam, the damage output becomes (0.8^3=0.512)*308=158).  And the damage scaling doesn't depend on MUGEN play modes.  It is working just fine. yes

I tried to use her in my MUGEN1.0 and this is the case.

So, what I want to say is, all pieces in Starfire's "Starbolt StormX" hyper beam look and sound normal and reasonable to me.  For a level1 hyper beam move, 308 maximum damage should be fine, and it even has a working damage dampener.  The "50% damage" thing might be due to MUGEN Simul match defense multiple factor that Dr. Strange/Captain Atom are using........hence please allow me to do Starfire a justice...... Arrow
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That's it Borewood, really Strange and Atom using the defense over and over again in ALL the times i tested both against Starfire and Catwoman.
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Anyway, the battle has redone! Check first post!
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@ gui0007...thank for the rematch

@ borewood...so you are saying starfire's code works differently in simul mode? or potentially all characters do that?

@ siralexbaby...sorry for how your team did. i think it was more a matter of bad luck

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@volzzilla:
>> borewood...so you are saying starfire's code works differently in simul mode? or potentially all characters do that?
Nope.  I was saying Starfire's hyper beam code damage does not depend on MUGEN modes.  I tried her hyper beam move in all MUGEN modes and the damage output is consistent.  This might be the defense set up of Dr. Strange/Captain Atom.
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