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Subject: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 19th 2024, 6:35 am
Songbird by Gate, jspiderman171717 & LESSARD
Additional codes by Mystik Blaze Hyper Combo Finish BG sprites by Winane Edits by Swanky
Songbird really surprised me, she has beautiful sprites, fluid movement and is pretty feature complete, all in all. She's a zoner with strong emphasis on keeping the enemy away.
A big thank you to Lessard who gave me permission to release this character edit.
There aren't a lot of changes like with some other characters that I've touched, it's mostly some under the hood updates to fix a few oversights and bring her more in line with some other mvc-ish releases. ...Fine, I did fiddle around with her combo ability a little bit...
Download Songbird (Dropbox link for now, will likely be rolled over into the main download if no issues pop up)
The changelog: - cut her portrait to normal size - sHP can now be comboed into. Adjusted startup frames. - removed PosAdd from Statedef 250 to prevent glitching through p2. Added small VelAdd instead. - verly slightly increased hitstun from jhP - Shrieking Slice hitflag now accounts for projectiles - Sonic Shriek mP now uses statedef 5120 for p2getup animation instead of 5030 (fixes some characters glitching back into standing animation) - hopefully fixed the infinite with Sonic Shriek mP. Only does 1 hit now. Fixed incorrect hitspark. - targets can only hit by 1 Sonic Shriek per Combo. Multiple Sonic Shrieks will put them into fall state instead. - Harmonic Surge now has upward velocity on hit. Can now be used to set up combos. Guard & Airguard velocities added. - Hyper Resonance dmg lowered, should no longer do 400+ damage by itself - p2stateno 1350 no longer makes p2 invulnerable - added Alpha Counter - fixed p2stateno hitdefs for boss characters. Add bosses to statedef -2 - Hyper Combo Finish screen added - fixed a few mislabeled and doubled sprites in her .sff - added missing 5072,0,10,20 sprites - hopefully fixed statedef 5120 (could be infinitely hit when lieing down, AvX code) - fixed some log & syntax errors. Still a good amount of left over code from AvX that could probably be deleted.
V1.01 - Reduced statedef 220 ground velocity by 1 for slightly easier comboing - reduced statedef 220 & 250 hit corner vels by 6. Getting pushed back half screen on hit made corner combos quite hard. Guard corner vels are untouched. - fixed an incorrect explod bindtime in Statedef 1450 - added variants of Air Dive. 214a still goes down, 214b goes straight, 214c goes up. Commands updated. Fallback changestate initiates if time >= 24. - Sonic Scream Anti Air Statedef 1350 now does not lift p2 beyond pos y > -90. Could still look a bit more elegant but does the job. - Hyper Air Sonic Beam power requirement updated (was 2000 even though it costs 1000) - deactivated Omega Red lifedrain on Songbird in statedef -2 - fiddled around a bit with the dampener code. Should be a bit less restrictive now. Changed atk power from 1100 to 1000 to compensate.
Moveset
Spoiler:
============== Movelist Specifics ============== Launcher: D + HP Extender: 236 + wP or 236 + mP
============== Skills ============== Hover 236 + KK Super Jump 2, 8 Air Dash 66 / 44 in air Push Block PP (when guarding) Alpha Counter 412 + P (when guarding on ground)
============== Special Attacks ============== Shrieking Slice (Air OK) 236 + K Sonic Shriek 236 + P Harmonic Surge 214 + P Decibel Barrage 214 + K Air Dive (in Air) 214 + K
============== Hyper Attacks ============== Hyper Resonant Wave D,DF,F + PP Hyper Sonic Mirror D,DB,B + PP Hyper Air Sonic Beam (in Air) D,DF,F + PP
Gameplay notes Songbird's core gameplay has not drastically changed from the original release. She is a strong defensive zoner but has interesting combo mechanics revolving around her 236P, 214P and 236PP moves. It is now possible to combo off of those moves or use them to set up combos. Max Damage via combos should be around 500ish. Getting those combos off in a match will be very difficult however. Ideally however, you do not want to let the enemy come close because Songbird is relatively slow and has less health than average.
Basics - her sHK doesn't teleport through the enemy anymore chaining from smK - her shP can now be consistently comboed into from both smP and smK - Hitstun from jhP was increased by 4 frames for slightly easier comboing when landing
Specials - fixed a multitude of issues with her 236P, Sonic Shriek. Can now be used as a combo extender on the ground. - changed hit velocity on 214P, Harmonic Surge. Now hits upwards. Can be used to set up combos. Kick opponents into the crystals with shK. - added an Alpha Counter. Costs 1000 Power.
Last edited by Swanky on August 21st 2024, 9:36 am; edited 3 times in total
animaraz, zequi007, malevka1, jspiderman171717 and RO-X like this post
animaraz
Posts : 1801 Join date : 2012-05-20 Age : 48 Location : León, Gto.
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 19th 2024, 4:23 pm
Thanks men!
Swanky
Posts : 24 Join date : 2021-02-02
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 20th 2024, 11:57 am
Pushed a small update: V1.01 - Reduced statedef 220 ground velocity by 1 for slightly easier comboing - reduced statedef 220 & 250 hit corner vels by 6. Getting pushed back half screen on hit made corner combos quite hard. Guard corner vels are untouched. - fixed an incorrect explod bindtime in Statedef 1450 - added variants of Air Dive. 214a still goes down, 214b goes straight, 214c goes up. Commands updated. Fallback changestate initiates if time >= 24. - Sonic Scream Anti Air Statedef 1350 now does not lift p2 beyond pos y > -90. Could still look a bit more elegant but does the job. - Hyper Air Sonic Beam power requirement updated (was 2000 even though it costs 1000) - deactivated Omega Red lifedrain on Songbird in statedef -2 - fiddled around a bit with the dampener code. Should be a bit less restrictive now. Changed atk power from 1100 to 1000 to compensate.
Aside from more bugfixing, this gives her combo routes a bit more variety, hard as they are to pull off in actual fight. Download link in first post updated, combo routes updated.
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RO-X
Posts : 52 Join date : 2023-05-05
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 21st 2024, 6:29 am
As you always emphasizes combo-ability in almost all of your edits/updates, I really hope that you would also release videos showcasing these combos (I think that would help people who don't understand technical mugen-stuff, such as statedef etc.)
Swanky
Posts : 24 Join date : 2021-02-02
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 21st 2024, 8:41 am
RO-X wrote:
As you always emphasizes combo-ability in almost all of your edits/updates, I really hope that you would also release videos showcasing these combos (I think that would help people who don't understand technical mugen-stuff, such as statedef etc.)
I was always under the impression that a movelist and some combo examples would encourage people to try out some combos on their own. Not really familiar with video editing so I hacked together a small video, see first post.
Regarding the technical stuff, I try to keep it accurate and mostly precise for creators to compare to their work, then have a paragraph of what it means for players in gameplay or general notes. I understand that not every player is adept at reading code, yet I encourage everyone to learn the basics of Mugen character editing to make the better suit to their personalized Mugen roster.
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Barkodaxx
Posts : 26 Join date : 2022-10-14
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 24th 2024, 5:14 pm
What size are these?
Swanky
Posts : 24 Join date : 2021-02-02
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 August 27th 2024, 7:11 am
Barkodaxx wrote:
What size are these?
Not sure what you mean but she's a low res Mugen 1.0 character.
GuNStArHeRo
Posts : 5 Join date : 2012-06-24
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 September 2nd 2024, 8:53 pm
Great work on this one
jspiderman171717
Posts : 278 Join date : 2015-06-25 Age : 26 Location : Mexico
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 September 5th 2024, 1:50 pm
Thanks for this! I see you're a very talented coder! I've been thinking for a while about an update for songbird, with unreleased sprites and some ideas that the original creator (gate) shared with me. If you're interested in a collaboration, send me a DM.
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shags2dope
Posts : 449 Join date : 2013-07-11
Subject: Re: Songbird MvC-ish edit for 1.0 September 5th 2024, 4:25 pm
Omg we absolutely need an updated songbird, she is already great but new moves and unreleased sprites sounds soo cool