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dakidbanks
Posts : 167 Join date : 2012-05-31
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 3rd 2019, 7:03 pm | |
| - demunlawin wrote:
- I'M SELLING MY "EDITTING/CODING SKILLS IN MUGEN" NOT THE CHARACTERS, THERES A DIFFERENCE...
I think there is a difference. If someone’s requesting you to sprite or code something from scratch, by all means you have the right to charge for doing that.. many have been doing it for years.... but your system may need to be tweaked a bit. You have various edits you did on your own where you insist that if ppl want access to them that they have to commission you to edit something else so they can get what they really want as a reward. I remember inquiring about the MVC MK characters and you told me since I kept asking about them that I should commission you to do something so I could get them. That’s not the correct way to go about it in my opinion. I understand what you’re doing, but I think it needs to be tweaked | |
| | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 2:17 am | |
| - dakidbanks wrote:
- demunlawin wrote:
- I'M SELLING MY "EDITTING/CODING SKILLS IN MUGEN" NOT THE CHARACTERS, THERES A DIFFERENCE...
I think there is a difference. If someone’s requesting you to sprite or code something from scratch, by all means you have the right to charge for doing that.. many have been doing it for years.... but your system may need to be tweaked a bit. You have various edits you did on your own where you insist that if ppl want access to them that they have to commission you to edit something else so they can get what they really want as a reward.
I remember inquiring about the MVC MK characters and you told me since I kept asking about them that I should commission you to do something so I could get them. That’s not the correct way to go about it in my opinion. I understand what you’re doing, but I think it needs to be tweaked And yet you forgot that you always bug me to release the MK edits and I always tell you to just wait for the right moment, I will release them all eventually all you have to do is wait... but you constantly force your requests to the point that you are annoying me like Shinsuke2009... If you can't wait for the right moment, "LEARN TO CODE" if you are impatient, don't rely on me to hand-out edits always...there are a place and time for that!!! I was gonna release them publicly for Halloween, but because your constant annoyances I changed my stance... they will eventually release through VIP and Loyal Members...but through PMs... and unfortunately YOU and Aeon07 are off the list... | |
| | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 3:16 am | |
| If A person is good at a skill and passionate about it, is it right or wrong to make a profit out of it?!? I am just offering my skills in editing MUGEN Characters to work in MvC Gameplay... I admit I was wrong... case closed... but these blokes that bit and bark at me are just here for the ride keep fueling the fire... one ungrateful, the other an impatient brat... I shared my edits now and then and shared links more than enough... And yet still Lurkers keep at stealing them and posting on m-u-g-e-n a-r-c-h-i-v-e...and you judge me for making them private on VIP Links and Loyalty Members?!? People come to me for commissions, I don't sell characters, I sell my skills... then I post the finished works here as a proof of every commission from clients...the Conversion Commission Rewards are from my personal project and will be eventually be released just like KARIN SF5 https://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/t12731-sfv-karin in due time.. so don't bug and ask me when... The reason why I started this is just to get my Laptop fix...nothing more... Is it wrong for me to do commissions? I'm not as rich as you think... I barely make even... I'm doing what encoders and artists do... make profits from commissions from clients in order to fix my laptop and further finance future mugen projects that will be someday be shared here in site once my laptop is fixed... | |
| | | dakidbanks
Posts : 167 Join date : 2012-05-31
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 9:05 am | |
| - demunlawin wrote:
- dakidbanks wrote:
- demunlawin wrote:
- I'M SELLING MY "EDITTING/CODING SKILLS IN MUGEN" NOT THE CHARACTERS, THERES A DIFFERENCE...
I think there is a difference. If someone’s requesting you to sprite or code something from scratch, by all means you have the right to charge for doing that.. many have been doing it for years.... but your system may need to be tweaked a bit. You have various edits you did on your own where you insist that if ppl want access to them that they have to commission you to edit something else so they can get what they really want as a reward.
I remember inquiring about the MVC MK characters and you told me since I kept asking about them that I should commission you to do something so I could get them. That’s not the correct way to go about it in my opinion. I understand what you’re doing, but I think it needs to be tweaked And yet you forgot that you always bug me to release the MK edits and I always tell you to just wait for the right moment, I will release them all eventually all you have to do is wait... but you constantly force your requests to the point that you are annoying me like Shinsuke2009... If you can't wait for the right moment, "LEARN TO CODE" if you are impatient, don't rely on me to hand-out edits always...there are a place and time for that!!! I was gonna release them publicly for Halloween, but because your constant annoyances I changed my stance... they will eventually release through VIP and Loyal Members...but through PMs... and unfortunately YOU and Aeon07 are off the list... Chill out that’s definitely exaggerated. They were being promoted as rewards, I inquired about who got them because I didn’t quite understand your whole VIP/reward process because some of your edits were available by simply PM’ing you. I was trying to understand your whole process because the ones I actually were interested in were the MVC MK edits because I had your Liu Kang. I may have given you a suggestion before on another edit but admittedly I did it because I saw others doing it and thought that was the norm... this was when I first got familiar with you. I was confused for a while about the whole commission thing because from what I’ve seen, commissions were either coding from scratch or spriting from scratch. Someone ended up making a thread in the Discussion section about MVC MK characters and I commented there too so if that’s “annoying” you then cool... but even in my post in this thread, I wasn’t even bashing you. All I said was the whole process may need to be tweaked a bit because there’s no reason there should be such an uproar over this. You’re clearly a top contributer to MMV whereas me? I’m just a person who comments here and there. I can’t sprite or code so I’m not as essential as you are, but I am welcome to give my opinion. You’re clearly overreacting. Go through my posts and quote whatever post I said that annoyed you and rubbed you the wrong way. If you feel you wanna take me off a list of “VIP members” then that’s a childish way to go about it. You can go through my posts and even FIND examples of me trying to establish what the difference between VIP members and rewards were.. but if you lookin for somebody to blame because now all of a sudden ppl are upset in here, don’t blame me because I didn’t say anything until yesterday and I honestly don’t see how my response could’ve pissed you off so bad.. especially in comparison to what others above me said. When I first PM’d when I was on this prestigious VIP list, I was even asking via PM then because I was confused as to how I’m able to get a private link for free for some edits but on some I gotta pay for something to be done to get a private link. That was my confusion... but I’m annoying though lol | |
| | | dakidbanks
Posts : 167 Join date : 2012-05-31
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 9:52 am | |
| - demunlawin wrote:
- If A person is good at a skill and passionate about it, is it right or wrong to make a profit out of it?!?
I am just offering my skills in editing MUGEN Characters to work in MvC Gameplay... I admit I was wrong... case closed... but these blokes that bit and bark at me are just here for the ride keep fueling the fire... one ungrateful, the other an impatient brat... I shared my edits now and then and shared links more than enough... And yet still Lurkers keep at stealing them and posting on m-u-g-e-n a-r-c-h-i-v-e...and you judge me for making them private on VIP Links and Loyalty Members?!? People come to me for commissions, I don't sell characters, I sell my skills... then I post the finished works here as a proof of every commission from clients...the Conversion Commission Rewards are from my personal project and will be eventually be released just like KARIN SF5 https://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/t12731-sfv-karin in due time.. so don't bug and ask me when... The reason why I started this is just to get my Laptop fix...nothing more... Is it wrong for me to do commissions? I'm not as rich as you think... I barely make even... I'm doing what encoders and artists do... make profits from commissions from clients in order to fix my laptop and further finance future mugen projects that will be someday be shared here in site once my laptop is fixed... Like I said in my first post in this thread, I understand where you’re coming from. I still believe it needs to be tweaked a bit. I think the issue at hand most ppl seem to agree with is that you’re making a few minor adjustments and charging for it. I don’t code so I don’t know the degree of difficulty to do what you do... plus your charging for edits to stuff ppl released for free. No one is knocking your skills For example, if I asked you to code Joker in POTS style.. you have the right to charge me because you’d be doing a complete overhaul of Joker and it wasn’t on your to do list but I asked you to do it. It just feels different when you have edits done on your own but you gotta go through multiple steps to get them... and in regards to me, I was told to either pay to have you do something or learn to code myself... like some of the responses are uncalled for. You should be happy ppl like what you contribute | |
| | | Mazemerald
Posts : 3999 Join date : 2012-12-10 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 5:54 pm | |
| i think you could post videos with your edits instead of post the sprites here, the videos would be on proper of you and who wanna see that and requesting chars to you would do it in a suitable place.
here in mugen multiverse you could post only the free chars that you already made and the chars you will provide for free too.
it can be a suggestion for you solve this problem about different thoughts. | |
| | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 8:03 pm | |
| - Mazemerald wrote:
- i think you could post videos with your edits instead of post the sprites here, the videos would be on proper of you and who wanna see that and requesting chars to you would do it in a suitable place.
here in mugen multiverse you could post only the free chars that you already made and the chars you will provide for free too.
it can be a suggestion for you solve this problem about different thoughts. I could do that...but it will be time and fund consuming considering I don't have a working laptop and internet outside is not cheap in our country... | |
| | | dakidbanks
Posts : 167 Join date : 2012-05-31
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 4th 2019, 9:12 pm | |
| - demunlawin wrote:
- Mazemerald wrote:
- i think you could post videos with your edits instead of post the sprites here, the videos would be on proper of you and who wanna see that and requesting chars to you would do it in a suitable place.
here in mugen multiverse you could post only the free chars that you already made and the chars you will provide for free too.
it can be a suggestion for you solve this problem about different thoughts. I could do that...but it will be time and fund consuming considering I don't have a working laptop and internet outside is not cheap in our country... 1 thing that would've helped you out previously is if you had a YouTube demonstrating your edits.. you keep mentioning that you don't have a working cpu.... you could've mentioned that a while ago and maybe opened a Patreon page that accepts donations and went about it that way.... then posted some edits on VIDEO demonstrating your work and the changes made.. and bug fixes if any.... but 1 thing that's frowned upon in the Mugen community is when you request payments constantly... that was 1 of the downfalls to ScruffyDragon.... Magus held on to stuff like War Machine for years (even still to this day) and they lost their core... its almost like it went from Scruffy to CVG to MMV So.. stuff like that is stuff I'd take into consideration for the future if I were you... just my advice but you probably will overlook this since for some reason you think I'm annoying and stuff but I really hope you chill out and not take offense to people giving their opinions. Once you're back in action if there's something available to non "VIP" members that interests me I'll def be keeping an eye on it | |
| | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| | | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 15th 2019, 11:28 pm | |
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| | | LoKoLoKo
Posts : 170 Join date : 2012-05-20 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 17th 2019, 12:05 am | |
| The Mortal Kombat characters in MvC format were really cool, I think it has a lot of potential, with their respective franchise sounds, very entertaining. As for doll, it's kind of dubious to talk about, since I'm a big fan of Street Fighter, the Dolls' MvC conversion was amazing. Congratulations. The gameplay is good, but can always better. Here's my personal opinion about Doll. I've listed a few things, and I'm very amateur in coding, very amateur: 1- I usually don't increase the velset too much, so the char doesn't slide too much, in contrast, I reduce the basics' ground.velocity a bit to fit the combos. 2- I also think it is good 2 launchers, standing and crounch. 3- This format is very difficult to code, but it is cool to leave the supers with 3 level power animation, but only consuming 1 level power. 4- What about Hyperportrait? Doesn't he appear in supers? It was very cool this style that you designed. I hope I helped and thanks for the chars. | |
| | | demunlawin
Posts : 554 Join date : 2012-07-19 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 17th 2019, 3:14 am | |
| - LoKoLoKo wrote:
- The Mortal Kombat characters in MvC format were really cool, I think it has a lot of potential, with their respective franchise sounds, very entertaining.
As for doll, it's kind of dubious to talk about, since I'm a big fan of Street Fighter, the Dolls' MvC conversion was amazing. Congratulations. The gameplay is good, but can always better. Here's my personal opinion about Doll. I've listed a few things, and I'm very amateur in coding, very amateur: 1- I usually don't increase the velset too much, so the char doesn't slide too much, in contrast, I reduce the basics' ground.velocity a bit to fit the combos. 2- I also think it is good 2 launchers, standing and crounch. 3- This format is very difficult to code, but it is cool to leave the supers with 3 level power animation, but only consuming 1 level power. 4- What about Hyperportrait? Doesn't he appear in supers? It was very cool this style that you designed. I hope I helped and thanks for the chars. Tried to add Super/Hyper Portrait on the Doll... but won't appear...not an expert on SUPER Effects code... I only add launcher(s) if Animation Launchers appear on the sprite sheet of the characters... mostly on the 12 dolls, its only one... | |
| | | LoKoLoKo
Posts : 170 Join date : 2012-05-20 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 17th 2019, 12:06 pm | |
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| | | CARNAGE777
Posts : 918 Join date : 2014-02-09 Age : 35 Location : mexico
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 17th 2019, 3:01 pm | |
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| | | Andy_X
Posts : 193 Join date : 2014-04-27 Age : 52 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: MUGEN 2018 Character Edits & Fixes!!! November 17th 2019, 8:23 pm | |
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